Rubin: Thaci wanted a democracy.

Rubin said Thaci said what Americans wanted to hear, and according to him, the former prime minister, the words turned into actions over the years.

He wanted a deal and wanted democracy, even though he spoke with a more communist language at the time, was through translation so a little hard to make her assessment. As for the co-existence, Kosovo Albanians had lived in a oppressive regime for decades, thousands were killed and I knew he was saying what we wanted to hear”.

I believed that, to be honest, I've believed more and more over the years because it showed that his words turned into actions, I haven't doubted him. I became increasingly convinced of the sincerity of his statements over the course of”, he said in court.