Abrahams faces another controversial report by Thaci's lawyer

Thaci's lawyer, Gregory Keohe, has found a contradictory HRW communique. It speaks of a trial that had been made by the KLA for banning two journalists, while they were not yet banned.

This is a press release from Human Rights Watch. It was released on November 1, 1998, nine days before you sat down with Thaci and Limaj, and we're talking about the military court. The judgment was reportedly carried out on September 30, 1998. Judgment is said to have been held on September 30, 1998. You know this because you put it in press release. This announcement has full information on one of the most important elements when these people have been detained”, Keohe said.

“You know the trial could not have been held on September 30th if these people according to your announcement were declared missing after October 18th”, Keohe said.

“We have two unbelieving parts. I didn't understand. I was getting information if I was publishing the material they gave us, I can't tell if the documents are correct. I don't know that”, Abrahams said.

Serbian journalists, who were war crimes suspects in Bosnia.

The rest, on the other hand, speaks of a report that Thaci was quoted as speaking of “the empowerment of military structures”, while Keohe said he spoke of “strengthening civilian structures”.

Taking advantage that the information is wrong, and considering that Thaci has talked about civilian structures, and the article speaks of military structures. I believe you agree that Mr. Thaci was trying to better represent it in front of the international community?

Conversation:

Keohe: It was a question by Judge Barthe if Thaci and Limaj said any of the two Serbian journalists were suspected of being involved in war crimes, and you said no, this has not turned out. Remember?

Abrahams: Yes

Keohe: I want to show up material evidence number 300. You've seen this document, which is the number three note that is supposed to have left the military police. Do you agree with me that this statement suggests that journalists were detained because they were not identified as members of the press?

Abrahams: Based on this statement, this is the claim that was filed by the Military Police Directorate.

Keohe: It says here that they were suspected of being spying?

Abrahams: That's the claim by the Police Directorate.

Keohe: TPNJ investigators came up with the claim that journalism has been involved in committing war crimes in Bosnia as members of the press. If he ever knew this information you should have had doubts if Dobriqi was a journalist when he was detained?

Abrahams: What exactly do you mean?

Keohe: You should have doubted if the journalist involved in the press was detained?

Abrahams: We should have taken it all for granted. This is a police department statement.

Keohe: If you knew that Mr. Dobric has been involved in war crimes, wouldn't you think he would have been a part of the conflict?

Abrahams: It should be seen in two forms. It's about whether we would consider in our analysis his alleged crimes, and the criticism we've done here was focused on whether there was regular legal process. If there were evidence that he committed criminal acts in Kosovo or elsewhere, this would have been put to trial.

Keohe: But that increases the probability that Dobriqi with Tanjug's credentials after doing so involved in war crimes, what I mean is that the probability is high that he was involved in war?

Abrahams: That should have come to judgment.

Keohe: The judge was asked about the meeting with Limaj and Thaci. You said Thaci was introduced as political directorate spokesman?

Abrahams: As I recall, he introduced himself as chief political directorate.

Keohe: Did you get the political directorate as an organ that talked to internationals?

Abrahams: I thought it was part of their obligation or responsibilities.

Keohe: But he wasn't the military person in the office?

Abrahams: That's how she introduced herself.

Keohe: And he wasn't even a lawyer?

Abrahams: Limaj covered the legal part. Based on the presentation, that's how I understood it.

Keohe: This is a press release from Human Rights Watch. It was released on November 1, 1998, nine days before you sat down with Thaci and Limaj, and we're talking about the military court. The judgment was reportedly carried out on September 30, 1998. Judgment is said to have been held on September 30, 1998. You know this because you put it in press release. This announcement has complete information on one of the most important elements when these people are kept banned.

Abrahams: Judgment is mentioned.

Keohe: You know the trial could not have been held on September 30th if these people according to your announcement were declared missing after October 18th.

Abrahams: I'm assuming that's correct. I need to see him carefully.

Keohe: Your own press release says you received information from Tanjug that these people were declared missing on October 18th. We see it every time you want it.

Abrahams: The date is correct. I didn't remember it being Tanjug.

Keohe: You agree Tanjugu said they were missing on October 18th?

Abrahams: October 18th.

Keohe: We have a trial that has been executed, and this is said in the material test 19 days before the loss. Is there supposed to be no trial on the day they were stopped?

Abrahams: If the information we have received is correct.

Keohe: The most important information for you was when these people were kept in custody. This is a document stating that the military court has ruled and Mr. Thaci has indicated they were setting up civilian structures?

Abrahams: Both of our conversationators spoke of difficulties in creating civil and military structures amid armed conflict.

Keohe: The person who talked about civil structures was Thaci?

Abrahams: No doubt he spoke of difficulties.

Keohe: We're in a situation that's been tried when these people weren't banned yet, and this was made by the military court according to the announcement. Meanwhile, Thaci talks to you about civil structures?

Abrahams: We have two unbelieving parts. I didn't understand. I was getting information if I was publishing the material they gave us, I can't tell if the documents are correct. I don't know that.

Keohe: But you've paid attention to the communiques?

Abrahams: They were part of our work.

Keohe: Taking advantage that the information is wrong, and considering that Thaci has talked about civilian structures, the article speaks of military structures. I believe you agree that Mr. Thaci was trying to better represent him before the international community?

Abrahams: Of course he was trying to do the impossible.

Keohe: You said about a meeting in August that we had contact with Thaci after he gave us the report. Do you remember this letter you sent on December 2, 1998?

Abrahams: Yes

Keohe: During the meeting in August 1999, did you ask him if he had ever received this letter?

Abrahams: I don't remember.

Keohe: But that should be important.